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the explanation from the romney campaign is mr. romney was not pulling notes out of his pocket. he was pulling out of his pocket a handkerchief. sure enough, a little later on, oop, in the debate mr. romney is seen wiping his nose with said handkerchief. so whether you are persuaded by mitt romney wiping his nose on what is supposed to be his crib sheet notes, if you're on the left, again, like this is a conspiracy theory that just does not help. president obama did not win the first debate against mitt romney. whether or not you're happy about that he didn't win. but if your takeaway from this conspiracy theory in this debate is the reason the president didn't win is because mitt romney cheated, then what is the utility of that theory for you? what is the utility of that information? how do you think president obama should then prepare for the second debate? should he just do exactly what he did this past wednesday night, except keep a closer eye out for the cheating because that is the only reason he lost? i mean, it may be comforting to tell yourself this is what really went
the explanation from the romney campaign is mr. romney was not pulling notes out of his pocket. he was pulling out of his pocket a handkerchief. sure enough, a little later on, oop, in the debate mr. romney is seen wiping his nose with said handkerchief. so whether you are persuaded by mitt romney wiping his nose on what is supposed to be his crib sheet notes, if you're on the left, again, like this is a conspiracy theory that just does not help. president obama did not win the first debate...
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romney and mr. ryan. >> romney, ryan, romney, ryan. >> so that people don't get tired of her. >> when you go after my man -- >> stop it, this is hard. you want to try, it get in the ring. >> was i a little strong? >> never apologize for america. >> people will call my awful things every day. there are going to be bumps in the road. >> what's with the wily coyote nuclear bomb? >> 90 minute attack ad. >> president is obviously a very eloquent and gifted speaker. >> i would have, bam. >> i have neve been in a presidential debate like this. >> let's get right to our panel now. we're joined by democratic strategist julian epstein, michelle cottle, washington correspondent for "newsweek" and the daily beast, and michael krouly who is "time's" washington bureau sheaf. allow me to read to you if i may part of a statement from beth myers. she says the president is a universally acclaimed public speaker. it's clear he will use his ample rhetorical gifts and debating experience to one end, attacking mitt romne
romney and mr. ryan. >> romney, ryan, romney, ryan. >> so that people don't get tired of her. >> when you go after my man -- >> stop it, this is hard. you want to try, it get in the ring. >> was i a little strong? >> never apologize for america. >> people will call my awful things every day. there are going to be bumps in the road. >> what's with the wily coyote nuclear bomb? >> 90 minute attack ad. >> president is obviously a very...
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mr.ne fully supported. he also supported the draft and participatedn what might be the only college demonstration in history in favor of the draft. bu hsotn favor of being drafted himself. he didn't want to get his hands dirty in the ment. he was in favor o his college classmes dng bot him. th wnd the draft bill ed against clinton did everything he could to avoid the draft without the benefit tha mitt romney enjoyed. but heidwa anyone to go to that war. he didn't force others to go to vietnam to die in his place. li mitt romney was. young american men had terrible ot tar o serve in the e days. war. protest the draft or avoid the draft or flee the country or go to prison in defiance of the draft. going to war was not the only brch . morally centered men made each one of those choices. the amorality of mitt romney's choice was something that i had never heard of. i snot kthreas a single american man who publicly protested in favor of the war and protested in favor of the draft and then evad
mr.ne fully supported. he also supported the draft and participatedn what might be the only college demonstration in history in favor of the draft. bu hsotn favor of being drafted himself. he didn't want to get his hands dirty in the ment. he was in favor o his college classmes dng bot him. th wnd the draft bill ed against clinton did everything he could to avoid the draft without the benefit tha mitt romney enjoyed. but heidwa anyone to go to that war. he didn't force others to go to vietnam...
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mr. romney saying that the president was like one of his sons. joining us there the university of denver, the site of tonight's debate, former new york mayor, rudy giuliani. thank you very much for your time. nice to have you here. >> thank you, rachel. >> what was your overall response to the debate? we know you support mitt romney but what do you think he did well? >> i really am very excited about it. i thought he did exactly what he had to do to turn this campaign around. i thought it was as devastating a convict a and defeat i've seen in a presidential campaign and debate. i thought the main thing he did and a real consistency throughout what he was saying and this is the contrast for the american people. he's talking about private-sector problems and solutions to our problems, to our economy, education, health care. and president obama is talking about government solutions. it's a very different vision that the two men have. i think president obama, also, seemed a little beif yofuddled. i'm not sure he's used to be challenged and he seemed
mr. romney saying that the president was like one of his sons. joining us there the university of denver, the site of tonight's debate, former new york mayor, rudy giuliani. thank you very much for your time. nice to have you here. >> thank you, rachel. >> what was your overall response to the debate? we know you support mitt romney but what do you think he did well? >> i really am very excited about it. i thought he did exactly what he had to do to turn this campaign around....
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jumped on. >> mr. president, your entitled to your own airplane and your own house, but not your facts. >> joining me is shawn splicer and democratic national committee communications director brad woodhouse. we are going into the specifics of what was said last night, but brad, let me start with you. i want to ask both of you this, analysts say that these debates in a battle between style versus substance, style wins out in the end. how much does fact checking matter? >> well, look, i think it matters. what i think you saw last night happened with mitt romney was he took some short-term gain for some long-term pain. i mean, look, chris, last night if mitt romney was talking, he was lying. he lied about his tax plan that cost $5 trillion. his campaign has never disputed that his tax plan costs $5 trillion until last night. he lied about medicare and what his plan will do. >> we are going to get into some of those specifics, so here's -- >> here's my point, chris. i don't believe that style will win out
jumped on. >> mr. president, your entitled to your own airplane and your own house, but not your facts. >> joining me is shawn splicer and democratic national committee communications director brad woodhouse. we are going into the specifics of what was said last night, but brad, let me start with you. i want to ask both of you this, analysts say that these debates in a battle between style versus substance, style wins out in the end. how much does fact checking matter? >>...
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case in point, mr. romney's tax plan. for months he's been telling us that he'll cut everyone's taxes by 20%. so some of the country's brightest economists did the math and found that romney's tax plan promises to cut taxes by $5 trillion without adding to the deficit. but when mitt romney took to the stage last night, he delivered a line that beggared belief. >> no economist can say mitt romney's tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. >> so black is white, up is down, and everything is the way he says it is in the world of mitt romney. like yago, mitt romney delivered those lines in the presence of a black man, but on this occasion the president would not be deceived. he allowed mr. romney to rehearse the full extent of his lie and then just a few hours ago drew our attention to what really happened last night. >> the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts in favor of the wealthy. the fellow on stage last night s
case in point, mr. romney's tax plan. for months he's been telling us that he'll cut everyone's taxes by 20%. so some of the country's brightest economists did the math and found that romney's tax plan promises to cut taxes by $5 trillion without adding to the deficit. but when mitt romney took to the stage last night, he delivered a line that beggared belief. >> no economist can say mitt romney's tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. >>...
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mrs. romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise. let's get right to our panel this afternoon. with us from washington, msnbc political analyst karen finney, who is a democratic strategist. also julian epstein, who is a democratic strategist, and here in new york msnbc political analyst professor michael eric dyson. professor dyson, mitt romney's wife says she's concerned about his mental health. paul ryan says he's inarticulate. if he can't think straight and he can't speak properly, is mitt romney george bush in disguise? >> i'll tell what you. i want to give you the baseline, i don't ha
mrs. romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise....
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and he went right at mr. romney on foreign policy and the wars. and he is -- he's right there when he says that we don't know what mr. rney would d if he beme president. ryaiecynd guely that he supports what president obama is doing in afghanistan in terms of there being a timeline for leaving but he has also said he was against a timeline for leaving in the past. so really who knows? he's not even trying. the closest we've gotten tony competing cogent republican posionhears pbl wh weot from senator john mccain at the republican convention when he said that the afghanistan war just shouldn't end. he also thinks that the iraq war shouldn't have ended. so i'm not sure that it's a politically viable position even if it is an iernally cogent one from the senator. fois's mi appantlyust t going to happen. not unless he starts it now. 40 days out, mitt romney did get as close as he gets to talking about the issue to in that he spoke before a group of veterans and talked about a concern about veterans. even ihe didn't say what he ntedo a tcon. romney, in
and he went right at mr. romney on foreign policy and the wars. and he is -- he's right there when he says that we don't know what mr. rney would d if he beme president. ryaiecynd guely that he supports what president obama is doing in afghanistan in terms of there being a timeline for leaving but he has also said he was against a timeline for leaving in the past. so really who knows? he's not even trying. the closest we've gotten tony competing cogent republican posionhears pbl wh weot from...
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the romney thesis is that the economy was getting worse. it was obama's fault, and romney was mr. fix-it. and in each of those tenets it seemed to me they have gone out the window. i think obama will start asking where is the beef. the numbers are very clear about the economic turnaround since he's been president. he has an economic jobs recovery act now which by everybody's reckoning would create somewhere between 1 million and 2 million jobs. on the other hand, you have romney who has no economic plan whatsoever other than to say i want to cut taxes below the 15% ofg dp that they are right now, and then the other night he says, well, i don't want to actually cut the actual tax rate, i want to cut rates and then i want to increase deductions and give us effectively the same amount of taxes coming into the economy which leaves him with an unutterly incoherent record. with romney you have nothing and i think the message you will start hearing next week is going back to that old mondale commercial, where is the beef, show us the beef, because there ain't none there. >> john, before
the romney thesis is that the economy was getting worse. it was obama's fault, and romney was mr. fix-it. and in each of those tenets it seemed to me they have gone out the window. i think obama will start asking where is the beef. the numbers are very clear about the economic turnaround since he's been president. he has an economic jobs recovery act now which by everybody's reckoning would create somewhere between 1 million and 2 million jobs. on the other hand, you have romney who has no...
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romney leads by three. on the deficit, mr. romney leads by nine. on all of these issues, that's the one on which he has the strongest trust from voters as compared with president obama. and that confidence in mr. romney on the deficit turns up not just in the nbc/"wall street journal" poll, but in a lot of national polls. even though he hasn't given a lot of details as to how he would handle the deficit as an issue. the bottom line, there's no question as to who you would rather be here, right? you would rather be president obama than mitt romney looking at these numbers. that plus 19 advantage that the president has on looking out for the middle class, that is a death nail for mr. romney's campaign if he cannot turn that around. but i think looking ahead to tonight's debate, there is a real opportunity in the huge disconnect in the electorate, in a way that reflects a real risk for president obama. there's this huge disconnect between mr. obama's best number with voters and one of his worst numbers. which is that president obama has so far not bee
romney leads by three. on the deficit, mr. romney leads by nine. on all of these issues, that's the one on which he has the strongest trust from voters as compared with president obama. and that confidence in mr. romney on the deficit turns up not just in the nbc/"wall street journal" poll, but in a lot of national polls. even though he hasn't given a lot of details as to how he would handle the deficit as an issue. the bottom line, there's no question as to who you would rather be...
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the president left out the frequent attack about mr. romney's 47% comments. a cnn opinion research poll taken after the debate shows 67% of registered voters believe mitt romney had a better night. 25% said president obama. a cbs poll says 46% of uncommitted voters said romney had the stronger performance. 22% said it was the president. the headline in this mornings usa today, romney seizes offense on obama's record. romney takes fight to obama. after a handshake in the middle of the stage and talk of the president's 20th wedding anniversary, they got down to business with details on taxes and debt and what is best for this country's middle class. >> this is where there's a difference because governor romney's plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the bush tax cuts and military spending that the military hasn't asked for. it's $8 trillion. how we pay for that, reduce the deficit and make the investments we need to make without dumping those costs on to middle class americans is one of the central questions to this campaign. >> under the president's p
the president left out the frequent attack about mr. romney's 47% comments. a cnn opinion research poll taken after the debate shows 67% of registered voters believe mitt romney had a better night. 25% said president obama. a cbs poll says 46% of uncommitted voters said romney had the stronger performance. 22% said it was the president. the headline in this mornings usa today, romney seizes offense on obama's record. romney takes fight to obama. after a handshake in the middle of the stage and...
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one of the problems mr. romney has is that voters just don't like him very much. we asked voters if they have a favorable, unfavorable of the president. they have a net unfavorable of the president and unfavorable for mitt romney. >> pollsters have been under fire from the right. >> you know it's a piece of garbage. i believe it's head to head in new hampshire. i've seen enough other polls to tell you that is a piece of garbage. >> calling it garbage. governor sununu wasn't talking about one of your polls, but one in new hampshire. how do you fight against kill the messenger? is this different than the past? >> it's not all that different. quinnipiac and most major polls do not weight their polls for party i.d. if someone passes our voter screen, they pass our likely voter. we ask if they are a democrat, republican or independent. voter identification and party identification is a changing characteristic. in 2010, democrats were complaining about the polls because party i.d. figures were republican. in ohio, ted strickland, the democratic governor went out of his
one of the problems mr. romney has is that voters just don't like him very much. we asked voters if they have a favorable, unfavorable of the president. they have a net unfavorable of the president and unfavorable for mitt romney. >> pollsters have been under fire from the right. >> you know it's a piece of garbage. i believe it's head to head in new hampshire. i've seen enough other polls to tell you that is a piece of garbage. >> calling it garbage. governor sununu wasn't...
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. >> senator kennedy, your question for mr. romney. >> mr. romney -- >> i'm sorry. was it my turn to respond. >> i was going to end it there. >> my suggestion about my comments in utah. let me complete it and you can ask me. >> do you have a problem with allowing someone to finish speaking and i suggest if you want to become president of the united states, you have to let both people speak. >> romney's worst moment was this one. it was a year ago with rick perry. >> rick, again, i'm speaking. i'm speaking. i'm speaking. you get 30 seconds. this is the way the rules work here is i get 60 seconds and you get 30 seconds to respond. >> obama has done his best to test him on this. both men have been tripped up by looking patronizing to women. aggressive attacks made her less likely to romney and helped turn the race in his favor. the last week of their fight centered on whether romney had taken a sexist tone when accused of accepting an anti-abortion group's endorsement. >> i did not in any way acknowledge their endorsement. >> you accepted it. >> in what way did i accep
. >> senator kennedy, your question for mr. romney. >> mr. romney -- >> i'm sorry. was it my turn to respond. >> i was going to end it there. >> my suggestion about my comments in utah. let me complete it and you can ask me. >> do you have a problem with allowing someone to finish speaking and i suggest if you want to become president of the united states, you have to let both people speak. >> romney's worst moment was this one. it was a year ago with...
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which deducts would mr. romney curtail to avoid as he insisted he would having the lower tax rates he proposes add trillions to the debt? he didn't say. onmaintaining he would not under any circumstances raise the taxes on middle in americans. how would mr. obama strengthen social security over the long term must be done? he didn't explain, only a tweak is needed. the president saying that he would -- that he had embraced simpson-bowles. >> he had not. >> if you ask simpson and bowls, he did not. he gave them a pat on the back and sent them out of the rose garden. >>> you're right. we went into this and said there's two guys debate, there's 90 minutes, almost exclusively focused on the economy, we'll get some meat on the bone here. but we forgot that this is politics. there are less than five weeks to go before the election, and there are certain things, mitt romney's tax plan, barack obama on social security, barack obama on simpson bowls and debt reduction, they don't want to put meat on the bone. people c
which deducts would mr. romney curtail to avoid as he insisted he would having the lower tax rates he proposes add trillions to the debt? he didn't say. onmaintaining he would not under any circumstances raise the taxes on middle in americans. how would mr. obama strengthen social security over the long term must be done? he didn't explain, only a tweak is needed. the president saying that he would -- that he had embraced simpson-bowles. >> he had not. >> if you ask simpson and...
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mr .ll vote trent my job is not to worry about these people. >> one of mitt romney's central arguments of the campaign is president obama just has not createbs. wyonols that have not created the jobs america needs, then you know it's time to choose a new lead, get a new coach. get amica owinagai >> romney's spokesperson andrea sal lead out the official romney line on msnbc today. >> haven't created a single net new job. >> that was september 4th. excuse me. today romneyost thiargunt thr oor statistics announced a provision to its jobs count from march of 2011 to march of this year. the revised number includes an additional 386,000 jobs. this means more than 5 mlion jobs have been added since presenama ok fice th bin here? there are more jobs now than when the president took over for george w. bush in january of 2009. this has been one of romney's main attacks on the president. and now, it's off the table. romney isn't in a position where he canordoose ais weapons. i think he's scrambling big-time. all the polls show that. on a personal note i can't wait for the debates. one of the line
mr .ll vote trent my job is not to worry about these people. >> one of mitt romney's central arguments of the campaign is president obama just has not createbs. wyonols that have not created the jobs america needs, then you know it's time to choose a new lead, get a new coach. get amica owinagai >> romney's spokesperson andrea sal lead out the official romney line on msnbc today. >> haven't created a single net new job. >> that was september 4th. excuse me. today...
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what mr. romney had said. >> i'm sorry, jim. i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and other things and i like pbs, i like big bird i actually like you to, but not borrowing money to pay china for supporting it. >> and the big broadcasting systems. what's the truth? could big bird be going bye-bye? joining us, from the christian monitor, good morning. >> good morning. >> so are big bird and pbs really in any danger here? >> well, i don't think big bird's had a week this good in a while. he's huge on twitter now. i think his twitter presence increased like 800,000%, and the thing about big bird and "sesame street" is they have so much outside funding. it's not like "sesame street" will disappear. pbs, the subsidy, it's a sizable chunk of their budget and would be a big blow. >>? how much? a perspective? how much the government chips in? >> it fluctuates year to year. 10% to 15%. in 2011, 12% funneled stlu came from the government subsidy. >> definite lay sizable clunk there. pbs has released a statement accusing governor romney of
what mr. romney had said. >> i'm sorry, jim. i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and other things and i like pbs, i like big bird i actually like you to, but not borrowing money to pay china for supporting it. >> and the big broadcasting systems. what's the truth? could big bird be going bye-bye? joining us, from the christian monitor, good morning. >> good morning. >> so are big bird and pbs really in any danger here? >> well, i don't think big bird's had a week...
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mr. romney says his plans will produce 12 million new jobs. his math is fuzzy at best, i have one way he could get part of the way to the goal. pass the dream act on day one. a new study shows that legalizing the 2.1 million undocumented immigrants who have been in the united states since they were children would generate 1.4 million jobs and add a whopping $329 billion to the economy by 2030. raul, i love this report by the center for american progress on the dreamers because it is the definitive point that is consumers who are job creators, not the 1% that are the job creators. if these folks become legalized citizens, they can go to college. they will spend more money. that creates jobs. >> these are people who are here. if the dream act passes, everyone benefits. they are contributing more. what gets lost, i think, so much in the immigration debate, this whole idea which is so basic in economics is that, you know, economics is not a zero sum game. if one person gets a job, they're not taking it from someone else. if we bring in all these p
mr. romney says his plans will produce 12 million new jobs. his math is fuzzy at best, i have one way he could get part of the way to the goal. pass the dream act on day one. a new study shows that legalizing the 2.1 million undocumented immigrants who have been in the united states since they were children would generate 1.4 million jobs and add a whopping $329 billion to the economy by 2030. raul, i love this report by the center for american progress on the dreamers because it is the...
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mitt romney has an op-ed in the "wall street journal" on foreign policy. mr. romney says allowing iran to build a nuclear weapon is unacceptable. president obama also says the u.s. goal is preventing iran from having an atomic bomb. >>> paul ryan told fox news he and mitt romney want a 20% cut in all income tax rates but ryan failed to provide details. >>> the associated press says if the election were held today, mitt romney would win 23 states, president obama would win the rest capturing 271 electoral votes. >>> hugo chavez, the president of venezuela is facing re-election with voting to be held next sunday, october 7th. chavez told an interviewer that if he were an american, he would vote for president obama over mitt romney. >>> music magazine has ranked the ten best presidents since 1900. franklin d. roosevelt, president during the depression and world war ii was ranked number one. number ten was barack obama. >>> and as the supreme court starts its fall term, justice ruth bader ginsbebegin ginsburg oldest on the supreme court. you probably did not know
mitt romney has an op-ed in the "wall street journal" on foreign policy. mr. romney says allowing iran to build a nuclear weapon is unacceptable. president obama also says the u.s. goal is preventing iran from having an atomic bomb. >>> paul ryan told fox news he and mitt romney want a 20% cut in all income tax rates but ryan failed to provide details. >>> the associated press says if the election were held today, mitt romney would win 23 states, president obama...
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mr. romney worked both those strategies last night and mr. romney, of course, won the debate, on style, on presentation, he won on demeanor. now day two is the attempted cleanup for things he actually said. today has been a day of mr. romney's campaign saying he did not mean what he said about people with pre-existing conditions being able to get health insurance. his campaign said today he does not have a plan for that even though he said he did. the romney campaign today said he did not mean what he said about half the energy companies supported by the obama administration going bankrupt. he didn't actually mean that. sort of rolled over from democratic and liberal bewilderment last night that mr. romney was abandoning his main economic plan that he was running on, his $5 trillion tax cut plan, his big trickle-down plan, to be rolled over from democrats being bewildered about that to the beltway press and mainstream pundits i think now having a hard time deciding whether they are supposed to call that a lie or whether they're supposed to ju
mr. romney worked both those strategies last night and mr. romney, of course, won the debate, on style, on presentation, he won on demeanor. now day two is the attempted cleanup for things he actually said. today has been a day of mr. romney's campaign saying he did not mean what he said about people with pre-existing conditions being able to get health insurance. his campaign said today he does not have a plan for that even though he said he did. the romney campaign today said he did not mean...
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then on to virginia and ohio for mr. romney. mitt romney's campaigns in virginia and then florida. monday he's expected, as he said, to start filling in the policy details with the first of several speeches starting with foreign policy. we'll be right back. vest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. >>> welcome back to "hardball." last night was a tough night for the president, of course, but there's another story to be told about mitt romney's performance, which relied on fuzzy math. vague policy prescriptions and statements that strained the truth. i'm being nice here. he denied his tax plan would cost $5 trillion. denied it. independent economists say it's the case. "the new york times" editorial today, they got out overnight, says the following, virtually every time mr. romney spoke, he misrepresented the platform on which he and p
then on to virginia and ohio for mr. romney. mitt romney's campaigns in virginia and then florida. monday he's expected, as he said, to start filling in the policy details with the first of several speeches starting with foreign policy. we'll be right back. vest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers...
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romney? >> that's exactly what mr. obama has to do. he has to remain calm and look like he is the commander in chief that he is for the united states and if he can -- if obama can be just who he is, there's no way that romney can get the narrative that he actually wants. but if obama can be himself, then i think that he will be just fine. >> abby, neera, thanks for your time and i think you're right, if the president is who he is and mr. romney is who he is, i think that will work to the president's favor. we'll be right back. >> thanks. oh no, not a migraine now. try this... bayer? this isn't just a headache. trust me, this is new bayer migraine. [ male announcer ] it's the power of aspirin plus more in a triple action formula to relieve your tough migraines. new bayer migraine formula. >>> welcome back to "politicsnation." in just two hours, the two presidential candidates will debate their visions of america's future. i had the honor of addressing voters from a debate stage, too. back during my 2004 run for president. and while i lo
romney? >> that's exactly what mr. obama has to do. he has to remain calm and look like he is the commander in chief that he is for the united states and if he can -- if obama can be just who he is, there's no way that romney can get the narrative that he actually wants. but if obama can be himself, then i think that he will be just fine. >> abby, neera, thanks for your time and i think you're right, if the president is who he is and mr. romney is who he is, i think that will work...
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i'm one that thinks mr. romney might have made a mistake tonight. i think he was theatrical, but he gave so many answers that will be proven to be untrue. is it not the strategy of obama campaign to let the -- let mr. romney commit himself to things that will not stand the light of day, including his own former position? as i said before the debate, a rope-a-dope strategy? >> on romney's huge tax cut, which he did dishonestly try to run away from. i think the president did a good job of explaining to the middle class, you're going to pay the burden for a $5 trillion tax cut. that issue has been driving voters in this election and that was intensified tonight. the president was clear about pinning romney down on medicare. as we come out of this debate, we're going to be making sure people understand, and the president said this, romney says he's going to cut loopholes but he won't name them. romney said i'm going to replace obama care. romney said he's going to repeal wall street reform. as the president said, these are plans that are harm the middle
i'm one that thinks mr. romney might have made a mistake tonight. i think he was theatrical, but he gave so many answers that will be proven to be untrue. is it not the strategy of obama campaign to let the -- let mr. romney commit himself to things that will not stand the light of day, including his own former position? as i said before the debate, a rope-a-dope strategy? >> on romney's huge tax cut, which he did dishonestly try to run away from. i think the president did a good job of...
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romney say, mr. president, you've been on an on poll i go tour, you don't know what you're doing in the middle east, you're waiving the work requirement for welfare. if he keeps going like that, the president is likely to lose his temper, isn't he? >> reporter: oh, i don't think so. look, the challenge facing president obama -- >> you don't? >> reporter: -- is the equivalent of a football team ahead trying to run out the fourth quarter. i think his challenge is to deflect, to respond to those with some element of humor, bemouss bemousseement. he'll cite fact-checkers and say independent analysts say your welfare charge is wrong, that sort of thing. i would expect him to be as much above it and not peevish, arrogant, not condescending as is possible to be. this is a president who doesn't make too many mistakes. >> karen, tonight's focus is domestic. >> yep. >> no bigger domestic issue than the economy, as we know. we'll have a rather open format. do you think we'll actually hear a specific from mr. ro
romney say, mr. president, you've been on an on poll i go tour, you don't know what you're doing in the middle east, you're waiving the work requirement for welfare. if he keeps going like that, the president is likely to lose his temper, isn't he? >> reporter: oh, i don't think so. look, the challenge facing president obama -- >> you don't? >> reporter: -- is the equivalent of a football team ahead trying to run out the fourth quarter. i think his challenge is to deflect, to...
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then on to virginia and ohio for mr. romney. mitt romney's campaigns in virginia and then florida. monday he's expected, as he said, to start filling in the policy details with the first of several speeches starting with foreign policy. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] if you had a dollar for every dollar car insurance companies say they'll save you by switching, you'd have like, a ton of dollars. but how are they saving you those dollars? a lot of companies might answer "um" or, "no comment." then there's esurance. born online, raised by technology, and majors in efficiency. so whatever they save, you save. hassle, time, paperwork, hair-tearing-out, and yes, especially dollars. esurance. insurance for the modern world. click or call. >>> welcome back to "hardball." last night was a tough night for the president, of course, but there's another story to be told about mitt romney's performance, which relied on fuzzy math. vague policy prescriptions and statements that strained the truth. i'm being nice here. he denied his tax plan would cost $5 trillion. denied it. independent
then on to virginia and ohio for mr. romney. mitt romney's campaigns in virginia and then florida. monday he's expected, as he said, to start filling in the policy details with the first of several speeches starting with foreign policy. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] if you had a dollar for every dollar car insurance companies say they'll save you by switching, you'd have like, a ton of dollars. but how are they saving you those dollars? a lot of companies might answer "um"...
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but i've got news for mr. romney. the obama campaign is hammering home who the real romney is and what he stands for. he's a candidate who has no problem writing off the country, something that this president refuses to do. >> i'm not fighting to create democrat or republican jobs, i'm creating jobs. i'm fighting to improve schools in the united states of america. i'm not fighting on behalf of rich values or poor values or 53% value. i'm fighting for american values. he's fighting for american values. but the other candidate, the man behind the mask, he's offering us a budget that takes care of the rich but leaves everyone else in the dust. >> show me your budget. i'll tell you what you've got. let's take a look at their budget. why are they doing it? well, they are doing it because they have to. and here's the reason they have to. they cannot possibly, possibly continue to add to the tax cuts of the super wealthy. >> that's what is behind the romney mask. that's what the next 39 days to the election are all about. an
but i've got news for mr. romney. the obama campaign is hammering home who the real romney is and what he stands for. he's a candidate who has no problem writing off the country, something that this president refuses to do. >> i'm not fighting to create democrat or republican jobs, i'm creating jobs. i'm fighting to improve schools in the united states of america. i'm not fighting on behalf of rich values or poor values or 53% value. i'm fighting for american values. he's fighting for...
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are people on social security the kinds of voters that you are talking about, mr. romney, in this debate tonight, when you say government is paying too big a role in people's lives. that's a tricky one for him to walk out of. >> are the elderly moochers? he's going to have to answer that question. >> service members on disability? i mean same thing. >> coming on the heels of the romney campaign trying to use joe biden's biden-esque turn of phrase the middle class has been buried and you know, biden has walked that back, you know, is it an indictment of the president? look if you're going to fight for the ground on the middle class i don't know that joe biden is the person you want to be sparring against. >> he is by far the best middle class, working-class figure in this race. but to me, the hannity, drudge, obama thing, the ryan thing, i mean, really? this is all they got? i mean, i found the -- i found nothing that obama said in that speech objectionable or disagreeable, similarly, i find ryan's thing not -- i mean there's a sophisticated and legitimate argument
are people on social security the kinds of voters that you are talking about, mr. romney, in this debate tonight, when you say government is paying too big a role in people's lives. that's a tricky one for him to walk out of. >> are the elderly moochers? he's going to have to answer that question. >> service members on disability? i mean same thing. >> coming on the heels of the romney campaign trying to use joe biden's biden-esque turn of phrase the middle class has been...
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>> this was mr. romney's long awaited etch a sketch moment at the debate. they decided he was going to pivot from this severe conservative he had been running as during the primary into a more moderate version of his former self and it's clearly incumbent on the obama campaign to keep him in the box they've placed him in, he's too conservative, extreme, out of touch with the american people. i think clearly president obama missed the opportunity to do that during the debate. he kind of let mr. romney climb out of that kind of space that they had put him in, but there will be many other opportunities as we see the president's back strong on the stump hammering romney. there will be another debate. we forget it's a long time ago, mondale wins the first debate against reagan, reagan comes back and cleans his clock in the second one. john kerry in 2004, you remember, won the first debate, against george bush. george bush similarly seemed very unhappy to be there as the president. bush comes back in the second one and wins, goes on to win. so lots of opportunity
>> this was mr. romney's long awaited etch a sketch moment at the debate. they decided he was going to pivot from this severe conservative he had been running as during the primary into a more moderate version of his former self and it's clearly incumbent on the obama campaign to keep him in the box they've placed him in, he's too conservative, extreme, out of touch with the american people. i think clearly president obama missed the opportunity to do that during the debate. he kind of...
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romney would do if he became president. mr. romney has said recently and vaguely that he supports what president obama is doing in afghanistan in terms of there being a timene f leaving but tine lngthsaid he was agnst past. so really who knows? he's not even trying. the closest we've gotten to any competing cogentepublican position on the war is probably what we got from senor john mccain at the republican convenon when he said that the afanisn wajustho't he also thinks that the iraq war shouldn't have ended. so i'm not sure that it's a politically viable position. even if it is an internally cogent one from the senator. for this year's nominee, it's apparently jusnogoing to happen. t less he star it w. 40 days out, mitt romney did get as close as he gets to talking about the issue today. in that he spoke before a group of veterans and talked about a concern about veterans. even if he didn't say what he wanted to do about that concern. mr. romney, in fact, implied th the sequester that might resu ifecuhas running mate paul ryan
romney would do if he became president. mr. romney has said recently and vaguely that he supports what president obama is doing in afghanistan in terms of there being a timene f leaving but tine lngthsaid he was agnst past. so really who knows? he's not even trying. the closest we've gotten to any competing cogentepublican position on the war is probably what we got from senor john mccain at the republican convenon when he said that the afanisn wajustho't he also thinks that the iraq war...
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so he's telling mr. romney, i assume, don't worry about it. you can do what i did and i guess that's soothing. >> it's soothing in a many of speaking but there's a crucial different here and that is that bob dole in 1996 fought the good fight. but, look, the economy by then was booming. nobody really gave him a chance of winning. what is happening here is you have romney losing a race that everybody thought he was perfectly capable of winning. so if that is indeed what occurs, it's possible he doesn't even get the viagra ad in the end and may be cutting some ads for bain capital. >> michelle cottle and dana milbank, thank you for your time this evening. >> thanks. >> thanks. >>> coming up, paul ryan has come up with a brand-new reason to avoid giving details on the romney/ryan plan. >> you haven't given me the math. >> it would take me too long to go through the math. >> the math is hard defense. good luck with that. >>> plus, todd akin goes from bad to worse. new comments from mr. legitimate rape have made him the poster child of the gop radi
so he's telling mr. romney, i assume, don't worry about it. you can do what i did and i guess that's soothing. >> it's soothing in a many of speaking but there's a crucial different here and that is that bob dole in 1996 fought the good fight. but, look, the economy by then was booming. nobody really gave him a chance of winning. what is happening here is you have romney losing a race that everybody thought he was perfectly capable of winning. so if that is indeed what occurs, it's...
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mr. romney gave a small difficult to the incumbents i think she is right. joy, this is a bad place for romney to go. >> this was the one bone to romney threw to the far right. they have this obsession with pbs in doctrine ating chi
mr. romney gave a small difficult to the incumbents i think she is right. joy, this is a bad place for romney to go. >> this was the one bone to romney threw to the far right. they have this obsession with pbs in doctrine ating chi
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mr. ryan is sharpening his attacks against the president and romney campaign. they face the president's growing lead in the polls in both states. nbc's ron mott is live on the phone from boston with us. ron, what's the latest there? >> hey, alex, good morning to you. we're in boston, just getting ready to board the buses and head up to derry, new hampshire, for that first rally that you mentioned. paul ryan is going to be speaking in new hampshire, and then we are off to ohio. a little bit later for a banquet in columbus later this afternoon. he's sharpening his attack against the president. the president seems to develop bigger and bigger leads in those big battlegrounds, ohio, virginia, florida, as the attacks from the romney campaign are getting just a little bit sharper and what paul ryan is going out and doing now, the past week or so, he's brought out the power point. the numbers guy, a budget guy, he's showing voters who come to these rallies exactly, and in raw numbers, the deficit problem the country has and he said that mitt romney is the better candi
mr. ryan is sharpening his attacks against the president and romney campaign. they face the president's growing lead in the polls in both states. nbc's ron mott is live on the phone from boston with us. ron, what's the latest there? >> hey, alex, good morning to you. we're in boston, just getting ready to board the buses and head up to derry, new hampshire, for that first rally that you mentioned. paul ryan is going to be speaking in new hampshire, and then we are off to ohio. a little...
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given that mr. romney and mr. ryan have given no details but have given a promise that they're going to reduce taxes by 20%, how does mitt romney deal with that tomorrow? what does he actually say that he has previously refused to say on explaining that? >> well, i think it's fascinating that they're treating mitt romney like he's the president and a lot in the media treat president obama like he's the challenger. what president george w. bush did when he was governor of texas is said i want to reduce taxes across the board and i want to make sure we have a balanced budget. he wasn't very specific during the campaign, and when he became president, he released a series of principles that went to capitol hill that said these are the measures that meet my -- >> here is the problem with that though, ron. people who have assessed his mathematics have deemed them to be completely impossible. michael, this is just in from mitt romney on how he'll pay for his massive 20% across the board tax cut. take a listen. >> everybo
given that mr. romney and mr. ryan have given no details but have given a promise that they're going to reduce taxes by 20%, how does mitt romney deal with that tomorrow? what does he actually say that he has previously refused to say on explaining that? >> well, i think it's fascinating that they're treating mitt romney like he's the president and a lot in the media treat president obama like he's the challenger. what president george w. bush did when he was governor of texas is said i...
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because in those states, mr. romney's argument that mr. obama is responsible for a bad economy doesn't work. ohio is more prosperous now than it's been for decades. and in virginia the unemployment rate is less than 6%. mr. romney probably can't win without either of those two states. and the economic conditions in those states, which are much better than the rest of the country, is really seems to be hurting him and helping the president. >> okay. peter brown, thanks for the interesting chat. i appreciate it. >>> now to number five on our list of the top five trending stories. the new intrusion into kate middleton's private life. more photographs of the duchess of cambridge have surfaced. a danish magazine has published photos showing middleton changing her bikini bottoms taken from the front. st. james palace has not said if it will take legal action. [ horse neighs ] look! she wears the scarlet markings! [ man ] out! your kind is not welcome here! nor your odd predilections! miracle whip is tangy and sweet, not odd. [ man ] it's evil! i
because in those states, mr. romney's argument that mr. obama is responsible for a bad economy doesn't work. ohio is more prosperous now than it's been for decades. and in virginia the unemployment rate is less than 6%. mr. romney probably can't win without either of those two states. and the economic conditions in those states, which are much better than the rest of the country, is really seems to be hurting him and helping the president. >> okay. peter brown, thanks for the interesting...
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let me start with mr. romney's divorce. why did he pick paul ryan for his running mate? certainly not for better or worse. mitt spends his days and nights acting as if he's out there all alone, that he never hooked up with ryan in the first place. i get it. romney doesn't want to get dragged down by his political mate's push for getting rid of medicare. he acts like ryan has no hold on him, but it's not the way it works. romney has slowly gotten the word that the voter out there thought the two had things worked out, that romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is ryan. we all know that politics makes strange bedfellows but the word is out this pair, romney and ryan, are sleeping in separate rooms. i'm joined by msnbc political ana
let me start with mr. romney's divorce. why did he pick paul ryan for his running mate? certainly not for better or worse. mitt spends his days and nights acting as if he's out there all alone, that he never hooked up with ryan in the first place. i get it. romney doesn't want to get dragged down by his political mate's push for getting rid of medicare. he acts like ryan has no hold on him, but it's not the way it works. romney has slowly gotten the word that the voter out there thought the two...
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mr. romney gave a small difficult to the incumbents i think she is right. joy, this is a bad place for romney to go. >> this was the one bone to romney threw to the far right. they have this obsession with pbs in doctrine ating children into socialism. that is sad. >> yeah, and joy, i want to let you know that nate he silver has updated his chances of the
mr. romney gave a small difficult to the incumbents i think she is right. joy, this is a bad place for romney to go. >> this was the one bone to romney threw to the far right. they have this obsession with pbs in doctrine ating children into socialism. that is sad. >> yeah, and joy, i want to let you know that nate he silver has updated his chances of the
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romney, congratulations mr. president on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most place you could imagine here with me. it was a great line from romney, not known to be funny. >> from the start, i think he picked up. he was able to work than extraordinarily confident fashion. he came in against tight, as mr. lipton indicated he owned that moment, owned that stage. he wanted to own obama with all of those troubling consequences, and he did so, i think, because he presumed that he would tell his facts, he would tell his truth, he would do it with vigor, and you can study every master, you connect emotionally, articulate your viewpoint and people believe in perception of your command. last night he was unquestioned in terms of his supremacy. >> that was significant. while romney was freely contradicting all of the previous romneys, he was unchallenged. unchallenged by the moderator. and unchallenged by the president. that, i thought, was extraordinary. i couldn't believe it. i kept waiting for the president to give answers that anyoneny one
romney, congratulations mr. president on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most place you could imagine here with me. it was a great line from romney, not known to be funny. >> from the start, i think he picked up. he was able to work than extraordinarily confident fashion. he came in against tight, as mr. lipton indicated he owned that moment, owned that stage. he wanted to own obama with all of those troubling consequences, and he did so, i think, because he presumed that he would...
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the late mr. rogers, everyone's neighbor, appeared before the senate subcommittee on communications and gave what proves to be a timeless defense of programs like those offered by pbs. >> we made a hundred programs for een, the eastern educational network, and then when the money ran out people in boston and pittsburgh and chicago all came to the fore and said we've got to have more of this neighborhood expression of care. and this is what i give. i give an expression of care every day to each child. unfortunately levar burton had a travel delay and could not join us tonight. we'll have him on the program next week if he is available. this story isn't going to go away. politics takes funny turns now and then. for the life of me i will never understand why mitt romney thinks this is a huge problem in the federal budget deficit. it's amazing. karen finney stays with us tonight. what is the strategy here, karen? why would mitt romney -- this is such a sliver of the federal budget. why would he use so
the late mr. rogers, everyone's neighbor, appeared before the senate subcommittee on communications and gave what proves to be a timeless defense of programs like those offered by pbs. >> we made a hundred programs for een, the eastern educational network, and then when the money ran out people in boston and pittsburgh and chicago all came to the fore and said we've got to have more of this neighborhood expression of care. and this is what i give. i give an expression of care every day to...
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here's what mr. romney had said. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm goingo stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> it prompted a plurry of internet activity supporting big bird and the public broadcasting system. what's the truth? could big bird going bye bye? joining us now a reporter from the christian science monitor. good morning. >> good morning. >> are big bird and pbs really in any danger here? >> i don't think big bird's had things this good in awhile. he's huge on twitter now. his twitter presence increased like 800,000%. and the thing about big bird and "sesame street," they have so much outside funding that it's not like "sesame street" is going to disappear. pbs, though, that subsidy, it's a sizeable chunk of their budget. it would be a big blow. >> about how much? do you have a perspective on how much that is? how much the government chips in? >> it fluctuates year to year. it's about 10 to 15%. in 2011 a
here's what mr. romney had said. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm goingo stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> it prompted a plurry of internet activity supporting big bird and the public broadcasting system. what's the truth? could big bird going bye bye? joining us now a reporter from the christian science monitor. good...
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this video about mr. romney and his family. it's very nice. nobody saw it at the convention but they're using it at their events now. right. and they gave "time" magazine that 1968 photo of young mitt romney on a beach in france with his love letter to ann, written in the sand. i mean you can understand why they wouldn't maybe want to highlight that mitt romney spent his draft eligible years writing love letters in france instead of serving in vietnam, but there is also a human benefit to showing him, right? human. an ounce of handsome, humanized mitt at this point might be worth a pound of questions on how he avoided serving during the war. they are trying. they've even got him talking about health reform in massachusetts again. and conservatives now are so scared of him losing as badly as it looks like him losing that they are not even squawking about it this time the way they did when he talked about romney care just last month. the romney campaign is trying to do some things right. they're trying to make people dislike their candidate less
this video about mr. romney and his family. it's very nice. nobody saw it at the convention but they're using it at their events now. right. and they gave "time" magazine that 1968 photo of young mitt romney on a beach in france with his love letter to ann, written in the sand. i mean you can understand why they wouldn't maybe want to highlight that mitt romney spent his draft eligible years writing love letters in france instead of serving in vietnam, but there is also a human...
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corbett, mr. romney, mr. turzei, mr. metcalfe and their friends will attempt to create confusion and chaos now that we beat this back. we're going to be just as vigorous now as we have been. your prior guest on the prior segment talked about anger. let me tell you something, chris, there's a lot of angry voters in pennsylvania. mitt romney and todd corbett for this chicanery. they're going to have a conversation with them at the polls on november the 6th. >> let me ask you, kathy, why did this creep up on so many people? i have been making some noise about it, but this is like a multistate thing, something like 20 or 30 states involved in this, all basically pushed by the republicans, all pushed to stamping down on the chance of minority people and older people to vote. clearly partisan and ethnic in nature. here we are, i may be the only person on national television yelling about this thing, but as bill clinton said beautifully it's blatant and yet nobody has been raising hell about it. >> that's right. we're in the no
corbett, mr. romney, mr. turzei, mr. metcalfe and their friends will attempt to create confusion and chaos now that we beat this back. we're going to be just as vigorous now as we have been. your prior guest on the prior segment talked about anger. let me tell you something, chris, there's a lot of angry voters in pennsylvania. mitt romney and todd corbett for this chicanery. they're going to have a conversation with them at the polls on november the 6th. >> let me ask you, kathy, why did...
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romney must call out the president. that is not so easy. mr. romney can't call mr. obama a liar. that's too harsh a word that would backfire. mr. romney must instead set the record straight in a presidential tone firm, respectful, but not deferential. joining me to talk about it from washington, richard goodstein, a democratic strategist who helped get al gore ready for the debates in 2000. on the phone from nebraska, brett o'donnell who is debate coach for mitt romney for part of the republican primary season. good afternoon to both of you gentlemen. >> good to be with you. >> let me start with you. tell me about the balance that romney has to strike, calling out, calling out president obama without appearing to be unfair or perhaps even nasty. >> well, i think it's all a matter of tone and language. and for governor romney, i would describe it as being respectfully but passionately aggressive. so in the way he refers to the president, referring to him as mr. president, with all due respect, but he also can't let that put him into a defensive posture where he doesn't -- i agree
romney must call out the president. that is not so easy. mr. romney can't call mr. obama a liar. that's too harsh a word that would backfire. mr. romney must instead set the record straight in a presidential tone firm, respectful, but not deferential. joining me to talk about it from washington, richard goodstein, a democratic strategist who helped get al gore ready for the debates in 2000. on the phone from nebraska, brett o'donnell who is debate coach for mitt romney for part of the...
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you heard the president last night with mr. romney. mr. romney being a different mr. romney than we've seen him for the last 18 months or the last section years. do you think even with the new hit romney that showed up last night when he starts talking about states' rights, when he starts talking about regulation or deregulation, when he starts saying he doesn't advocate $5 trillion tax cut when in fact the numbers prove that he does and has been advocating that, will that resonate with independent voters and/or undecided voters in your state of ohio? >> i don't think so. i think people realize that governor romney is still wrong on medicare and still wrong on trade and still wrong on jobs and still wrong on the middle class. i think that's increasingly clear. again it goes back to which path do you go. do you want to go back to the trickle down economics you give tax cuts to the rich and hope it helps the middle class or do you focus on the middle class and that's trait enforcement, it's i don't think training at community colleges like columbus state and sinclair. i
you heard the president last night with mr. romney. mr. romney being a different mr. romney than we've seen him for the last 18 months or the last section years. do you think even with the new hit romney that showed up last night when he starts talking about states' rights, when he starts talking about regulation or deregulation, when he starts saying he doesn't advocate $5 trillion tax cut when in fact the numbers prove that he does and has been advocating that, will that resonate with...
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romney answer and inn the ad really said it. the questions we're getting is mitt romney has said he's going to overturn roe versus wade, get rid of planned parenthood and end the national family program that provides cancer screenings to women every year. this is the question on women's mind, and men's, what is his plan for women. seems he is committed to rolling back the clock on women's health care. >> when we talk more about what we've seen on the left like sandra fluke, an activist who has been thrust on to the political forefront and has embraced that to be a face of talking about a woman's right to choose and planned parenthood, how much awareness has she brought? i find it fascinatiing that not just women, but men. this isn't just a women's issue, this is an issue for all. >> that's right. it's incredible. there was a dpraet story today i think in gra mor magazine that just came out. a wonderful interview with the president. basically said that for women and again, for a lot of men, 99% of women use birth control and the
romney answer and inn the ad really said it. the questions we're getting is mitt romney has said he's going to overturn roe versus wade, get rid of planned parenthood and end the national family program that provides cancer screenings to women every year. this is the question on women's mind, and men's, what is his plan for women. seems he is committed to rolling back the clock on women's health care. >> when we talk more about what we've seen on the left like sandra fluke, an activist...